Comments on: Sam Brummer: The Meaning of Mentch http://www.savethedeli.com/2009/10/01/sam-brummer-the-meaning-of-mentch/ Dedicated to the preservation of all salted and cured Judaic meats Thu, 17 May 2012 10:29:33 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.1 By: Laurie http://www.savethedeli.com/2009/10/01/sam-brummer-the-meaning-of-mentch/#comment-40811 Laurie Thu, 01 Oct 2009 14:18:00 +0000 http://www.savethedeli.com/2009/10/01/sam-brummer-the-meaning-of-mentch/#comment-40811 Wow! What a hero, Sam Brummer. As we say in French, Felicitations! Wow! What a hero, Sam Brummer. As we say in French, Felicitations!

]]> By: Jeome Kellert http://www.savethedeli.com/2009/10/01/sam-brummer-the-meaning-of-mentch/#comment-40812 Jeome Kellert Thu, 01 Oct 2009 14:27:30 +0000 http://www.savethedeli.com/2009/10/01/sam-brummer-the-meaning-of-mentch/#comment-40812 My hat is off to Mr. Bummer in every respect. 'Cause I was too young for WWII, and Korea, too old for Vietnam I have the greatest respect for those who did serve. And on top of it, he owns a Deli! Does it get any better than that? JLK Plymouth, MA My hat is off to Mr. Bummer in every respect. ‘Cause I was too young for WWII, and Korea, too old for Vietnam I have the greatest respect for those who did serve. And on top of it, he owns a Deli! Does it get any better than that?
JLK
Plymouth, MA

]]> By: Melinda Blau http://www.savethedeli.com/2009/10/01/sam-brummer-the-meaning-of-mentch/#comment-40814 Melinda Blau Thu, 01 Oct 2009 16:29:23 +0000 http://www.savethedeli.com/2009/10/01/sam-brummer-the-meaning-of-mentch/#comment-40814 Nice story. By staying in Newark , Sam created a "being space" for the whole community. Nice story. By staying in Newark , Sam created a “being space” for the whole community.

]]> By: jhersh http://www.savethedeli.com/2009/10/01/sam-brummer-the-meaning-of-mentch/#comment-40818 jhersh Thu, 01 Oct 2009 20:57:51 +0000 http://www.savethedeli.com/2009/10/01/sam-brummer-the-meaning-of-mentch/#comment-40818 great story, but mr. brummer is a MENSCH, not a mentch. great story, but mr. brummer is a MENSCH, not a mentch.

]]> By: David Sax http://www.savethedeli.com/2009/10/01/sam-brummer-the-meaning-of-mentch/#comment-40819 David Sax Thu, 01 Oct 2009 21:04:57 +0000 http://www.savethedeli.com/2009/10/01/sam-brummer-the-meaning-of-mentch/#comment-40819 Actually jhersh, if you consult Michael Wex, the foremost Yiddish expert, that's the correct spelling. Actually jhersh, if you consult Michael Wex, the foremost Yiddish expert, that’s the correct spelling.

]]> By: itzikl http://www.savethedeli.com/2009/10/01/sam-brummer-the-meaning-of-mentch/#comment-40862 itzikl Wed, 07 Oct 2009 16:46:57 +0000 http://www.savethedeli.com/2009/10/01/sam-brummer-the-meaning-of-mentch/#comment-40862 Dear David, I'm delighted to have found your blog -- thanks to today's Times article. I am totally in favor of what you're doing, and the subject is very important, it's part of who we (East European Jews) are. I imagine you'll be getting a whole new crop of readers now. Michael Wex speaks Yiddish very, very well, he knows a great deal about the language -- but he's not "the foremost Yiddish expert." I'm not sure who is, but I don't think even he would say he's THE foremost. But even if he were, the question here is not exactly about Yiddish, but about how to transliterate Yiddish into English. There are two systems that are prevalent. One is the scientific standard, accepted internationally, for example, by library cataloguers, and by nearly all scholars of Yiddish. That is the YIVO system. According to YIVO, the word would be spelled mentsh. The other is to use German orthography. In that style, it would be spelled mensch. Today this is widely frowned on; it's something like if you would trsnsliterate Russian into Polish spelling. Sure, the two languages are related, but it gives the impression that Russian is a form of Polish -- which it isn't. Michael Wex knows this perfectly well, but he has decided to fashion his own system, of which he says "I've tried to go for something as close to English as possible, strange as things might sometimes end up looking." (JUST SAY NU, p.5.) So OK, Wex spells it "mentch," but just so you know -- he's the only one who does. Dear David,
I’m delighted to have found your blog — thanks to today’s Times article. I am totally in favor of what you’re doing, and the subject is very important, it’s part of who we (East European Jews) are. I imagine you’ll be getting a whole new crop of readers now.
Michael Wex speaks Yiddish very, very well, he knows a great deal about the language — but he’s not “the foremost Yiddish expert.” I’m not sure who is, but I don’t think even he would say he’s THE foremost.
But even if he were, the question here is not exactly about Yiddish, but about how to transliterate Yiddish into English.
There are two systems that are prevalent. One is the scientific standard, accepted internationally, for example, by library cataloguers, and by nearly all scholars of Yiddish. That is the YIVO system. According to YIVO, the word would be spelled mentsh.
The other is to use German orthography. In that style, it would be spelled mensch. Today this is widely frowned on; it’s something like if you would trsnsliterate Russian into Polish spelling. Sure, the two languages are related, but it gives the impression that Russian is a form of Polish — which it isn’t.
Michael Wex knows this perfectly well, but he has decided to fashion his own system, of which he says “I’ve tried to go for something as close to English as possible, strange as things might sometimes end up looking.” (JUST SAY NU, p.5.) So OK, Wex spells it “mentch,” but just so you know — he’s the only one who does.

]]> By: Albert Rech http://www.savethedeli.com/2009/10/01/sam-brummer-the-meaning-of-mentch/#comment-43204 Albert Rech Thu, 20 May 2010 11:58:39 +0000 http://www.savethedeli.com/2009/10/01/sam-brummer-the-meaning-of-mentch/#comment-43204 Am Donnerstag um 20.15 spielt das deutsche Nationalteam gegen das schweizer Nationalteam. Wer wird gewinnen? Ich denke, die Schweizer machen das schon! Am Donnerstag um 20.15 spielt das deutsche Nationalteam gegen das schweizer Nationalteam. Wer wird gewinnen? Ich denke, die Schweizer machen das schon!

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]]> By: Michelle http://www.savethedeli.com/2009/10/01/sam-brummer-the-meaning-of-mentch/#comment-46855 Michelle Thu, 30 Dec 2010 11:06:12 +0000 http://www.savethedeli.com/2009/10/01/sam-brummer-the-meaning-of-mentch/#comment-46855 I am trying to contact Mr Brummer as my father worked for him in the 1950's - can anyone point me in the right direction? I am trying to contact Mr Brummer as my father worked for him in the 1950’s - can anyone point me in the right direction?

]]> By: Sam Brummer http://www.savethedeli.com/2009/10/01/sam-brummer-the-meaning-of-mentch/#comment-47618 Sam Brummer Tue, 15 Feb 2011 22:56:10 +0000 http://www.savethedeli.com/2009/10/01/sam-brummer-the-meaning-of-mentch/#comment-47618 Awesome story. Good to know that other people with my name do some good in the world. I also work at a Deli (kind of... Jimmy John's Gourmet Sandwich Shop) I am still trying to figure out what the last name "Brummer" means. I've heard it can be translated to "Grumpy" Awesome story. Good to know that other people with my name do some good in the world. I also work at a Deli (kind of… Jimmy John’s Gourmet Sandwich Shop)

I am still trying to figure out what the last name “Brummer” means. I’ve heard it can be translated to “Grumpy”

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